A few weeks ago I sent my family off on an adventure and logged onto Zoom in the quiet to sit and talk with the Rev. Annie Grogan. Annie and I were introduced through a mutual friend and fellow minister years ago, but our ministry paths didn’t cross until recently when Annie launched Dying to Know, a podcast created to explore and normalize conversations around the struggles of life and death.

For an hour we sat and talked about trauma, grief, being the parent of a cardiac child and how a 1% risk factor changed our lives. I talked about my research project with the Louisville Institute. We talked about the questions I now had about how we talk about grief and trauma in the church. It was a delightful conversation. I encourage you to listen to our episode The 1% Thing Can Happen and subscribe to Dying to Know.


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